Swordplay!

Talduras · 2006-04-01 02:34:25

A simple search for Zelda on Amazon.com for the sole purpose of checking what they had for the release date for the upcoming game turned up some interesting secondary results. I knew Amazon.com had listings for swords, but I wasn't expecting so many game related ones.

First up, a stainless steel master sword, which seems to be a rather odd entry that almost seems to hint at an e-bay style of product listing, since all the information seems user submitted. I thought Amazon.com only had pages that the webmasters for Amazon.com created?

Next up is a different master sword that seems to be provided by a specific Amazon.com provider (e.g. 3rd party business). At first I thought it was plastic, which would seem to make sense given the price, but on closer inspection I noticed the disclaimer that says, "You must be of at least 18 years of age to purchase this product." On another note, the description somewhere says "great for cosplay." Lol!

Now switching gears away from Zelda, this one lists Squall's gunblade.. Same Amazon.com provider, same price, though I wonder how Squall got in FF7 (hint: look at the page title).

Now a surprising entry, Sephiroth's sword, the Masamune! It's shorter in length than I remember from the game, and yet its price is nearly three times higher!

Cloud's Buster sword (doesn't look very accurate).

Keyblade (not from an Amazon.com provider).

Edit: I should note that a lot of these seem to have two different pages for the same item (except the first and last ones), both from the same provider.

New Edit: After careful view, I believe the first link has a photo of a sword that is likely provided [for cheaper] at the second link.

Seraphim Moonshadow · 2006-04-01 02:40:00

*Drools* Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that's more juicy than..than...a watery mango? GUNBLADE. PRETTY. Mind if I just sit and stare at these a while?

Ninja Monkey · 2006-04-02 10:22:05

Talduras wrote:

Now a surprising entry, Sephiroth's sword, the Masamune! It's shorter in length than I remember from the game, and yet its price is nearly three times higher!

This one was found while looking at the sephiroth one
Kadaj double blade looks pretty interesting, if i had a place to put them, and money to buy them I'd probably get them...

Talduras · 2006-04-02 13:09:42

Wow! This is the cheapest price I've ever seen for what seems to be a full-size sword, though this one isn't a game replica. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F3 … &n=3375251

That would be funny if that price was for all the katanas listed, but it's really just showing the colors/styles to select from. It's probably also one of those collection thingies. "Buy all our playsets and toys," or in this case, "Buy all our shiny cool swords!"

Seraphim Moonshadow · 2006-04-02 13:14:06

I'd rather get a katana at the Ren Faire. Heck, I don't really know what I'll get at the Ren Faire this year. It would seem easier to buy one at a Faire rather than buy it online. I guess you could just see the quality of it more...by sight AND touch...like the balance, etc, rather than just...looking at it by a picture.

Talduras · 2006-04-02 23:06:13

Seraphim Moonshadow wrote:

I guess you could just see the quality of it more...by sight AND touch...like the balance, etc, rather than just...looking at it by a picture.

I would only buy for display anyway. :0l:

...Well, and to hold, but mostly in the same way I'd hold a figurine.

Seraphim Moonshadow · 2006-04-03 00:17:24

Well, maybe you....but....I need to learn the skills I have inside of me that try to awaken from time to time. I should stop being afraid of my ability to fight because I enjoy being able to be lithe, powerful, and to be able to protect others. I mean, if some swordsman comes towards me, I want to be able to protect myself, and my family, and do it without consequences to my health, which is why I need to loose this weight. Because then I could run a heck of a lot faster if I got rid of this bagagge. (The reason I am fat.)

Figurines are totally cool. So are displays. But if someone attacks me, I don't want it to be just a display.

EDIT: Actually, I should be honest....I love fighting. For sport, not anger, of course. That was one of my favorite pasttimes with my family...beating each other up. :00: Wrestling rocks!

Talduras · 2006-04-03 00:32:11

Clearly you put more thought into this than I expected, but that's okay.

I think most of these replicas are probably just for show... although, all the amazon.com pages DO list these under the "Sports and Outdoors" category :0f:.

BTW, your paranoia (if it could be called that) of physical harm seems more suited to someone from New York City. I don't see how you'd include swords into the idea of self-defense. Most tend to stick with standard martial arts. Besides, carrying a sword with you would either count as carrying a concealed weapon (I think), or freaking people out. Hmm... on second thought, that last one doesn't sound too bad. :02:. Sure beats the norm everyone else does of freaking out people with a strange mind, which has become cliche.

Talduras · 2006-04-03 00:38:09

For anyone keeping tabs on the "display vs. battle-ready" thought, the gunblade and buster sword are both labeled as "not battle-ready" and say "to be used for display purposes only" in the amazon.com description. The same is not said of the master sword and katana-based weapons, though one amazon.com reviewer states that the laws of physics will be against you when trying to use the Masamune.

Seraphim Moonshadow · 2006-04-03 00:56:16

I actually did read those.

Well, it actually had to do with an earlier conversation and dizzying intellect. [Boy, is my intellect dizzying, phew! Like a spiral tower it goes down and down and up and who knows where else.]

Think of it, though, I do come from Cali. You think Cedar or SLC isn't just as bad? Think again. Scaarrry people. I attract scary people. It's very frustrating.

Also, think, too, it's the last days. Y'think the saints going back East is going to be easy and frilled with flowers? C'mon. There's enough people itching to attack us as it is, let alone for those who get called back. O_o I mean, it's like: why not be prepared? Better am than not.

And yes, the whole "I like to fight" is also part of my bravado, though it is also a part of me which scares the snot out of me.

Talduras · 2006-04-03 14:29:24

Seraphim Moonshadow wrote:

Also, think, too, it's the last days. Y'think the saints going back East is going to be easy and frilled with flowers? C'mon. There's enough people itching to attack us as it is, let alone for those who get called back. O_o I mean, it's like: why not be prepared? Better am than not.

You do realize that the same was basically the case of the saints in Missouri during the mid-1800s, right? Do you hear of any stories of them actually using weapons extensively during that persecution? Weapons do have their place for self-defense, but over-reliance on fighting isn't what God wants. For example, the situation of Nephi and Laban. Nephi tried various times and ways to get the plates from Laban. Again and again they'd failed. Then comes the last resort. Nephi finds Laban in a severely drunken state. Nephi resisted killing him at first, citing the ten commandments, but so important was God's work that he gave Nephi an amendment for this situation. "Better that one man die than that a nation should dwindle in unbelief." God knew this was a last resort scenario, and Nephi came to realize that also. Had he not not killed Laban, they would not have obtained the plates, and then who knows what would've happened to those plates.

The saints in Missouri didn't have so extreme a last resort as that. They may have been forced to use guns during the Hans Mill Massacre, but that's an extremely isolated incident, and their real last resort was fleeing west, which was hard in another sort of way. So whether or not the saints will be forced to use self-defense in the future hasn't been specifically revealed to us yet. There are hints and speculations, but that part hasn't been fully revealed yet. Remember, the war in Heaven wasn't a war of violence. It was a war of ideologies and plans. Who knows to what extent the Battle of Armagedon will be violence and what part will be ideologies, if both even factor in. But, one thing's for certain, those who follow the Lord with full heart and intent, who care most about the Lord's plan, will be guided by the Lord in knowing what to do. If that means self-defense, so be it, but the Lord's people are not a people of war. War is only the last of last resorts when all other methods have failed, and is only used when the situation is deserving of such.

Seraphim Moonshadow · 2006-04-04 01:30:41

I loved your post. ^.^ You are fully right about violence as a last resort but I think I might have not phrased my words correctly, because I certainly didn't mean it as a first resort. But thanks for your post. I do have something to say in response, but that can wait. In the meantime, sleep well, all of you. Again, thank-you for taking the time to post a response-it was enjoyable to read.

Seraphim Moonshadow · 2006-04-04 12:16:37

Alrighty, here is what I was going to say. Look in Alma chapter 48.

[8]Yea, he had been strengthening the armies of the Nephites, and erecting small forts, or places of resort; throwing up banks of earth round about to enclose his armies, and also building walls of stone to encircle them about, round about their cities and the borders of their lands; yea, all round about the land.

He made preperations for whatever was coming. He knew the Lamanites were going to be coming, so he prepared.

[10]And thus he was preparing to support their liberty, their lands, their wives, and their children, and their peace, and that they might live unto the Lord their God, and that they might maintain that which was called by their enemies the cause of Christians.

His cause was great enough. Things will get far worse than in the Book of Mormon. But he was pure in his intent.

[11] And Moroni was a strong and a mighty man; he was a man of a perfect understanding; yea, a man that did not delight in bloodshed; a man whose soul did joy in the liberty and the freedom of his country, and his brethren from bondage and slavery;

Yea, a man whose heart did swell with thanksgiving to his God, for the many privileges and blessings which he bestowed upon his people; a man who did labor exceedingly for the awelfare and safety of his people.

13 Yea, and he was a man who was firm in the faith of Christ, and he had sworn with an oath to defend his people, his rights, and his country, and his religion, even to the loss of his blood.

14 Now the Nephites were taught to defend themselves against their enemies, even to the shedding of blood if it were necessary; yea, and they were also taught never to give an offense, yea, and never to raise the sword except it were against an enemy, except it were to preserve their lives.

Now the Nephites were taught to defend themsevles against their enemies...

I have a talent for fighting. I am strong without even trying. If I don't prepare, then I am failing God. I am not becoming whole. I am not using all of my heart for Him. To just sit and fight that talent, as I do, is to allow Satan to use it for his purposes.

I don't want to be the bullies of bullies or something. I want to protect others. I'm not out to kill people. But if I do not use my talents for God, then Satan will use them. One or the other, not black or white. I can't stand somewhere in the middle.

On a sidenote, there are people who in their P. blessings/blessings/whatever have been told they will be fighting. The war in heaven was with ideas, yes, and so it is here. But the wicked will fight for blood and for power. It is our duty to be prepared and so in exercizing and doing various other activities, I can prepare myself physically for that which is to come, as well as spiritually.

Talduras · 2006-04-05 16:04:42

First off, the examples from the Book of Mormon were of impending danger. The part that says "they knew they were coming" was close at hand. In regards to The Last Days, many people "knew they were coming," but for them to prepare for THAT is rather unproductive because it was so far off. Relatively speaking, even now it is still far off, yet near at hand. The preparations at this point don't involve readying ourselves for combat. Current preparations involve readying our lives to conform to the teachings of God. At this point, only those who are fighting wars in other contries have to worry extensively about combat prep. Elsewhere, the most that anyone would really need is self defense training, and this usually involves non-leathal combat (karate, for example). Self-defense has an interesting way of back-firing if the person happens to kill the attacker, since it can make the roles of attacker and victim seem reversed. Keep in mind that there are those whom were martyrs for their beliefs, and God knew such cases would arise. The exact scripture for that escapes me, but it probably when similar to this: "Blessed are they who die proclaiming my name..." The exact quote went better than that.

Seraphim Moonshadow · 2006-04-06 02:39:34

There is a time and a season for everything. Preparation goes beyond that which is spiritual. [And, duh, spiritual comes first. Of course, maybe if you're striving for spiritual, you'll be doing the other, too, since they tend to go hand-in-hand.] To really serve the Lord, you need to take care of your body?like keeping yourself fit, healthy, so that you can be of more serve.

We have the guideline of the Word of Wisdom to keep us healthy. I know I am not the best example of this at times, and admit I need to step up on this completely. Martial arts [or whatever you happen to be doing] is one way to discipline yourself and attain a higher level of fitness so that you may be more useful to the Lord.

Remember that it doesn't take martial arts to kill someone and you could kill someone fairly easily in martial arts. Anger is only a weapon to your opponent. Consider the fact as well that if you are trained to know how to defend yourself/or kill, then you will know how not to kill. The purpose of fighting is not to hurt, or just to defend, but to be able to control your body and your emotions as well. [That also goes hand-in-hand with the gospel as well. Control emotions, bridiling passions, etc. Becoming one with yourself. One in purpose, one in mind, looking onward, though perhaps stumbling, always serving God. That is part of the gospel of Christ. Perhaps one man might learn to control his anger by rock climbing or another going out and doing service.]

The danger is just as real now as it was back then?in all of its forms, and has reared its ugly head. If you know that the dragon is coming, even if it is not in your lifetime, you should do all you can to prepare. I mean, who knows when it will come? 10, 15, 20, 50, 75 years? What would you do if it came that soon? Would you turn your head and ignore it? The world is turning and with it the darker it becomes and the brighter others become. Would you have the kind of stamina to survive? [Obviously if you're really, truly listening to the Lord, most likely you'll be prepared, but it's easy to let go on the small and simple things.] The Lord requires us to go the extra mile because once you are out of energy, and once you have given everything you thought you could, it?s each step after that counts. That includes looking beyond the basic principles of the gospel to the most delisious fruit behind it.

I don't mind if I die in the defense of my country, or defense for someone else. What matters most of all is that I am prepared for what is to come. Our country is at war. There are still Gadianton Robbers. There shall never be peace on this earth again. (Until the Second Coming, of course.) Wouldn't you think that's sort of a heads up?

I mean, it's easy to wave your hand and say, "Signs of the times" but if you don't do anything about it, you're gonna be toast. There's worse things than back then in this world. And yes, we need far much more than physcial strength but to be built on the rock of Christ. We each have a special reason for doing what we do--and each a special mission, with our own inner knowledge, etc. What matters is if we keep the blinders full on because we are comfortable where we are, or if we let ourselves trust in God and see where He guides us.

jerbl · 2006-04-06 16:23:45

Um, I guess a simple statement really wouldn't cut it here, *backs out slowly*, physics be hung, I want a master sword!

Seraphim Moonshadow · 2006-04-17 03:20:03

Y'know how each of us has a divine destiny, right? Well, we probably (at least, I did) made further goals to accomplish in this life as well as several promises to many of our sisters and bretheren as well. One of my goals was to live and to die for Christ. Whatever that will entail will be revealed in the future. I know I cannot suffer for everyone like Christ but that is okay. Those goals are linked with promises I won't break.

So what are some of the extra promises you made? For you, Justin--probably to provide good media, if not more, and that's a cool thing. As for Jeremy..create a good environment? I don't really know you well enough to say. ^.^

And now it is seriously past my bedtime, though I am beginning to wonder if I have a bedtime anymore at this rate. Ja.

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